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the past four years, and into the recent election, the issue of health care has been at the center of our nation's great policy debates with implications beyond the health care industry packing our large -- impacting our larger fiscal policy and social concerns. we are fortunate to have with us today mr. brussard to share insights on the developing policy. prior to joining humana in 2011, he was an executive with the corporation, and before that, u.s. oncology. large producers and providers of health care products to major health care institutions. with that background, mr. brussard brings to the podium today a broad perspective on the health care issues facing the country. he has an undergraduate degree from texas texas a&m, and mba fm university of houston. we look forward to your comments today on this very important topic. thanks for being here. [applause] >> thank you, thank you, everyone. [applause] >> well, thank you, and i really appreciate the opportunity to address each one of you. as we talk today, our nation is actually wrestling with one of the largest issues probably in a lo
'm not asking anyone else to write any checks until i hear something that makes sense to me. since the election there have been a lot of gatherings and meetings among those who are active in raising money. the question is are we united in drying that up from the people i have talked to? the answer is yes. krystal ball, when you have lost the socialites, i believe the republicans have nothing left to lose. >> well, it -- >> what else is there? this is rock bottom? >> it looks pretty bleak. >> a hack, fundraiser. >> she had strong words there, well, i was looking back at the analysis "the washington post" did last summer regarding the republican party, and the sort of old republicans which i assume she is, fiscally conservative, typically northeastern, typically well off still make up about 22% of the party. so a decent chunk of the party. and what georgeette there shows, they make up a certain amount of the funding base which is why they have had a lock on the republican party. and the innovation for the growth of the tea party is their ability to have larger scale donor movements, smaller dolla
this fight just like he won the election. just like he won the debate over raising taxes on the rich. and the american people are behind him. a new poll shows 52% approve of the president's handling of the fiscal cliff deal that raised taxes on the wealthy just 31% support speaker boehner. 57% say president obama got more of what he wanted. just 20% say that about the gop. republicans may not be good at a lot of things, but i do think they can read the poll numbers. they know their approach isn't working which is why gop leaders have begun to waffle on the party's threat not to raise the debt limit. >> we have to use whatever leverage we have. and there are some examples of leverage can coming along. the debt ceiling is one of them. that hopefully would get the president engaged. >> hopefully? whatever leverage we have? doesn't sound like a guy who's confident to me. and john boehner's in the same tight spot. the wall street journal says that boehner thinks that that bill is just one point of leverage. he says he hedges by noting that it is not the ultimate leverage. when a politicia
. that the president of the united states, elected to lead the country, is so reluctant to engage on the most important issue regarding our future. >> but you understand what the president told me last week and other democrats have said, the republicans had a chance to say yes to a number of things, in addition to the trillion dollars of spending cuts that were en80ed as part of the budget control act of last year. they could have had additional cuts in entitlement programs if you had agreed before you did it in this temporary measure. going back to the summer of 2011, the president said to all of you republican leaders, if you didn't have such a hard time saying yes to me as president we could have solved some of these issues why. is he off base about that? >> you can relitigate the past if you want to. where we are now is we have resolved the revenue issue, and the question is, what are we going to do about spending? i wish the president would lead us in this discussion, rather than putting himself in a position of having to be dragged kicking and screaming to the table to discuss the single biggest
to justify. you know how the sunlight foundation added up political spending in this past election to see who got the most bang for their buck in their political spending? it was really bad on the right. the republican party's house campaign committee spent almost $65 million, but only 32% of what they spent went to campaigns in which their candidate was successful. so two-to-one, their money was spent on losing. it was worse for the republican party's senate campaign. for their investment of $32 million, only 24% paid off in terms of races that went the way they wanted to. three to one, their money was spent losing. freedomworks was about the same. and the chamber of commerce, which is supposed to be such an impressible and unassailable campaign juggernaut, the chamber of commerce spent $32 million, but less than 7% of what they spent went to winning candidates they wanted to win, or against losing candidates that they wanted to lose. less than 7%. they were 93% ineffective in what they spent. even worse than that was karl rove's american crossroads, which was like the conservative politics
decision in the wake of president obama's re-election. the republican party is divided. that's being isolated and ignored by the right wingers. that's a problem for the gop. that southern dominance may sentence the entire party to irrelevance. >>> conservative ideologues are itching for another fight with president obama, this time saying they may shut down the government altogether or risk a credit catastrophe. could somebody remind these guys who won the election, again. >>> plus, the nra has made its position clear. the answer to gun violence, more guns. we have evidence that posting armed guards everywhere has the exact opposite effect. the latest battle lines as the obama administration moves to curb the availability of assault weapons. >>> let me finish with why this nomination of chuck hagel should be given a solid, solid chance, and this is "hardball," the place for politics, >>> hillary clinton is back at work at the state department. this morning she chaired the weekly meeting of the department's leadership team, and one thing on the agenda will be testifying on capitol hil
of the agenda. it's an obligationed based on the nature of the electorate that re-elected barack obama. i think that's job one. >> john: well, latino voters put this president in office twice and he promised repeatedly that it would be top of his agenda. do you think he'll follow through with his promise and push through legislation this month and what kind of reform he'll consider since he has made the dream act law already. >> i think he'll formalize that and put in place the mechanism by which the dream act is a stepping stone to comprehensive reform. pardon me. >> john: go ahead, please. >> whether or not he has time much more than that, i don't know. but once he gets a system in place, and it's operating and you know, thousands and thousands of people come out of the shadows, it will be very hard caring what happened last fall to roll anything back. >> john: let me ask you about his nominees. they'll throw as much mud at chuck hagel for the unspeakable crime of being of the about the iraq war, do you think they'll slow down the process trying to bog it down or will they see john kerry sail
champion in the years to come. to have some kind of revolution but when the next election for speaker happens to republican conference conservatives especiallespeciall y within the caucus will remember how cantor handled the fiscal cliff and that may help them. there were other high-profile republicans who voted it had interestiinteresti ng votes. paul wright in the house voted for it. marco rubio on the senate votes no on it. what he think the implications are about? >> guest: to see there are 2016 implications is a little far-fetched but if you love politics you have to look at it. when i was inside of the house chamber watching the fiscal vote, he really is a power player within the party. one of the most important things he is done since the campaign is aligned himself for speaker john boehner and a lot of people did not expect this. one of the the reasons his dumbest and i've spoken people who are close to right write is he wants to make 2013 if budget year. in order to do that he needs boehner support so i don't think ryan will actively break with boehner. >> guest: we have not
for the republican party. >> you're in politics to win to get your ideas. we lost two national elections in the row. we need to think about doing something different. >> there's plenty in new jersey in politics, as well. >> a lot less than there used to be. >> a new poll confirms christie winning support from both sides of the aisle. 73% of new jerseyans approve of him, including 62% of democrats. last night christie delivered his state of the state address, which was chock full of calls for cooperation. we don't have that sound. the washington post dana milbank paints christie as an anomaly. americans are crying out for an end to ideological warfare. that has developed into christie's signature in new jersey. a poll found support for the tea party is at record lows, while the poll found 24% called themselves tea party members in 2010, 8% see themselves as one now. evenly between democrats and republicans, that changed this past year. currently, 47% of americans identify with democrats compared to 42% who align with the gop. last night on "hardball," crusader dick army diagnosed the problem as mist
of this president. we probably will start right away recruiting challengers for the next elections. local union leaders, local party officials, and activists. we would happily send out an e- mail in the district to those who support medicare and social security and medicaid cuts. host: have you ever want that at some members of congress? guest: we have launched it publicly in the more generic sense, saying this is a warning. we want to be transparent. we don't learn from this nuclear war. for someone like me woke up every day in 2008 and thought, what can i do today to get barack obama elected president. he publicly admitted that he put social security benefits on the table. that's not a position i want to be in and not what i worked for and to thousand eight. host: did you work for it in 2012? guest: our organization prioritized congress in 2012. our number one candidate was elizabeth warren. she's already been told, calling out aig and big wall street bankers yesterday. we raised $1.5 million from grassroots contributions in this last election cycle. we raised $100,000 before she even announc
might get through the primaries. how are you going to get through a general election? is this the party that he's really for? immigration reform? he's going to find out pretty soon. >> richard, maria, i think, if anything, colin powell has began a debate and a discussion that's going to not end over night or bring us into the midterm elections and i'm glad he did. richard u maria, thank you for your time tonight. and i thank all of you were watching. i'm al sharpton. hardball starts right now. >>> pow, right in the kisser. let's play "hardball." ♪ >>> good evening. i'm chris matthews in washington. let me start tonight with this. yesterday a day of infamy for the republican party. general colin powell told the vivid, nasty truth. he blasted his party, especially its leaders, for engaging in flagrant race-baiting. many of his points have been made on "hardball." the racist language about the president of the united states shucking and jiving, about him being lazy, the unending background assault of the birthers saying the president is not legitimate, not even an authentic american. aga
to imagine they're now going to come back and actually do something. >> if only there were a senator elected to washington -- >> who cared about the consumer. >> -- that steve rattner supported. >> i think i know where we're going. >> if only there were that person. you could just check them off. >> you know what? there is. >> steve didn't support him. >> absolutely. you are going to come around on elizabeth warren. you just are. who doesn't? elizabeth warren said this on the issue. aig's reckless bets nearly crashed our entire economy. taxpayers across this country saved aig from ruin. and it would be outrageous for this company to turn around and sue the federal government because they think the deal wasn't generous enough. steve. >> so i agree with elizabeth warren who's completely right. >> that's all i need to hear. you just made my morning. >> january 9th of the new session. >> check right there. >> it's amazing what a victory does. >> come on. >> something about 1,000 fathers and orphans. >> something like that. something like that. so i'm curious, mika. i'm reading "the new york time
and despite the election results, the position that has been taken on the part of house republicans is that we have to do it our way. if we don't, we simply will not pay america's bills. that cannot be a position that is sustainable over time. it's not one that is good for the economy now and it will not be the precedent i want to establish not just for my presidency but for the future. even if it was on the other side. democrats do not like voting for the debt ceiling yet you never saw a situation in which democrats suggested that we would go ahead and all that we did not get our way 100%. that's not how it works. >> on the issue of guns, given how typical it will be, impossible, to get any gun- control measure passed through this congress, what are you willing or able to do using the powers of your presidency to act without congress? i would also like to know what you make of these long lines we're seeing at gun shows and gun stores all around the country? even in connecticut, applications are up since the shooting. >> my understanding of the vice- president will provide a range of steps we
of infamy, al elects. here is my point. it bugs me as a white guy to be blunt about it, i think it's an embarrassment to white people as well as a travesty in our country generally that people engage in this crap at this point in our history. when we do have an african-american president, ought to be proud of the damn fact instead of going in the other direction. what i can't believe is the people i talk to say what are you talking about matthews? we're not engaging in race-baiting. you're hearing something here. and that's what really bugs me about people that don't want to hear for some sick reason, don't want to hear what's going on here, and thank god colin powell finally came out and called out these guys like reince priebus the head of the party. he didn't call him by name. he was a gentleman, although i don't know why he was. i would have called out sarah palin. i'd have called out sununu. these are names of people that use that rotten language. >> and the list goes on, right, chris? rand paul -- >> donald trump. >> rand paul doesn't support the voting rights act. haley barb
've got to say, if you look at how the republican party reacted the first time president obama was elected, i wrote a book that basically could be boiled down to don't lose your -- al roker at the white house. >> exactly. >> they didn't listen. they went out, they engaged in birtherism, they called the president a racist who hated all white people, and they went so far right and so extreme that they lost middle america. and so yeah, we lost another presidential election. look at the cover of "drudge" which i think magnificently reflects the feelings of conservatives, where the conservative movement is. and you know, he links stories that people want to see, and he does it better than anybody else. this weekend, i went on "drudge." and at the top of it is a story of survivalists. that are buying property, arming themselves and building walls out west. you have sean hannity who is talking about secession. you have another talk radio host whose name isn't even worth mentioning that is talking basically about -- about how the federal government is coming in and taking weapons, you know. there'
for the election, and if he has to circumvent congress, that is what he will do. >> the trillion dollar platinum coin is sort of deferred action and a creative way of the within the letter and if not the spirit of the law, but the president can have. >> and i love the coin. i think that we could have a commemorative plate, and go with it. it would be great. >> and a hip-hop song about it. that would be good. all of that. stay right there and what the president can do about guns is next. ♪ i've got the power when you have diabetes... your doctor will say get smart about your weight. i tried weight loss plans... but their shakes aren't always made for people with diabetes. that's why there's glucerna hunger smart shakes. they have carb steady, with carbs that digest slowly to help minimize blood sugar spikes. and they have six grams of sugars. with fifteen grams of protein to help manage hunger... look who's getting smart about her weight. [ male announcer ] glucerna hunger smart. a smart way to help manage hunger and diabetes. [ bop ] [ bop ] [ bop ] you can do that all you want, i don't like v
are stock. as mark indicated, they elect a republican house, and that is why everything is in a stalemate. >> look at the new congress and house speaker john boehner's problem. >> for those of you who are returning to have what these aisles before, maybe it is time we get a little awestruck. put simply, we're center not to be something but to do something. >> not to be something but to do something. that's a great idea. were they listening? house speaker john boehner reelected with 220 votes out of 426. pelosi got 192. he has been taking a wicked beating from republicans. we showed chris christie yelling at him that was because of the vote on reliefer hurricane sandy. he is taking a beating. >> because he's trying to do something. he tried to do something in december with his plan b and his party walked on him. he then abdicated his responsibility and lifted up to the senate to act. the senate gave him a proposal and it turned out of his caucus would not support him on doing something about that either. that he has just tried. as part -- his party will not let him. >> he is a deal maker.
says he needs his job like a hole in the head. that's a funny way to celebrate re-election. just what is the speaker up to. we'll have that story. and the tea party gets even more unpopular. so gop has an answer. tea party favorite ted cruz, the new extremism of the republicans newest star. plus, hillary clinton gets a big surprise on her first day back to work since being hospitalized. here's a hint. it wasn't an apology from the fix losers. you're watching "politics nation" only on the place for politics, msnbc. [ male announcer ] where do you turn for legal matters? maybe you want to incorporate a business. or protect your family with a will or living trust. and you'd like the help of an attorney. at legalzoom a legal plan attorney is available in most states with every personalized document to answer questions. get started at legalzoom.com today. and now you're protected. [ male announcer ] how do you turn an entrepreneur's dream... ♪ into a scooter that talks to the cloud? ♪ or turn 30-million artifacts... ♪ into a high-tech masterpiece? ♪ whatever your business challenge
. on election he is feeling good about himself and feeling like there can be no opposition to his position and so it doesn't seem, he doesn't seem terribly concerned there is not a lot of concern for chuck hagel. >> another nomination will be for treasury secretary as well. perhaps jack lu who is currently the chief of staff at white house is the leading candidate. how would you vote on lu? >> i would have to look at his record and listen to what he has to say. i will tell you my view on any treasury secretary would be that i would want to hear some real proposals for growth. and this whole debate about the fiscal cliff we have been talking about taxes and talking about spending. noticeably absent from the equation has been growth. and the biggest economic problem of the last four years has been the dismal economic growth. under barack obama our economy has grown 1.5% a year for four years. less than half the historical -- >> this gets no the whole idea of retooling the republican party under the heading of opportunity conservativism which i would like to get into in just a second. do you
of this debate on what to do next and we also know that in the last election cycle, millions of dollars, somewhere around $20 million contributed by the nra or spent by the nra to keep its influence alive and well and playing what the president said in this news conference regarding the politics of all of this in the midst of us marking one month to the day that those children and teachers were killed. >> my starting point is not to worry about the politics. my starting point is to focus on what makes sense. what works. what should we be doing to make sure that our children are safe. and that we're reducing the incidence of gun violence and i think we can do that in a sensible way that comports with the second amendment. and then, members of congress i think are going to have a debate and examine their own conscience because, you know, if, in fact, and i believe this is true, everybody across party lines was as deeply moved and saddened as i was by what happened in newtown then, you know, we're going to have to vote based on what we think is best. we are going to have to come up with an
election. it had been one of the hardest fought campaigns in recent memory. texas governor versus the vice-president and when the election results came in the vice-president won the popular vote because florida was too close to call, it went into equivalent of overtime, remember the pregnant, hanging and dip pelled chads and after challenges to the supreme court, 5-4 to halt the recall in florida and bush took florida getting the 25 needed electoral votes and he took the oath of office and lawmakers recognizing george w. bush 12 years ago. and is his parents' 68th wedding anniversary, they're now the longest married presidential couple in history. they met at a christmas dance in connecticut in 1941, married four years later and mr. bush, wearing his officer's uniform. he was 21 and on leave from active duty in world war ii as a navy pilot. mrs. bush was 20 and her groom was the first boy she'd ever kissed. president bush is still in a houston hospital for related cough and he's in a regular that's the news for today. huckabee is next. >>> tonight on huckabee the president and democrats go
this time as a negotiator because, a, he won an election and, b, he learned from the experience he is had in his first term? >> i think so, i don't know what david would say to that. as i look at this, a, it's clear he won the election and that gave him somewhat of a policy mandate. he was quite specific of what kind of grand bargain he envisioned that it would involve higher tax revenue. if the president hasn't won the election or had been as big a margin i don't think you would have seen the deal looking as favorable to the administration as it was. i think the president learned from the debt ceiling and what everybody forgets, the extension of the tax cuts at the end of 2010. i think one lesson that the full administration learned was just because you did a deal that was bipartisan doesn't actually automatically make it easier to make future deals. so they extended it at the end of 2010 in a heavily bipartisan way but that didn't stop us from a really debilitating and horrible experience on the debt ceiling and i think that was a backdrop to this negotiation. >> rose: david? >> i think
are whining about the president's choice for defense secretary. tonight a reminder of who won the election and why this is the perfect guy. let's get to work. >> chuck hagel is the leader that our troops deserve. he is an american patriot. >> president obama nominates chuck hagel as defense secretary, and conservatives are fuming. >> positions that he has taken over the years will be, i think very much a matter of discussion. >> this is an in-your-face nomination by the president. >> if hagel is nominated, it is very difficult to imagine circumstance in which i could support his confirmation. >> admiral joe sestak and richard wolffe are here on the road to confirmation and what this could mean for defense cuts. >>> republicans are coming out for the government shutdown. >> you think that's a good idea? >> yes, i do. >> you really do? >> yes. >> john nichols on their backwards reasoning. >>> mcdonnell doesn't mind another hostage situation for the deficit, at the expense of the most vulnerable. david cay johnston lays out the gop fabricated spending problem ahead. >>> the opposition on gun
. three times, tamron. i got elected in the second largest nra membership state by 10%, 12% and 21% of the vote. >> right. >> that was my margin. >> governor rendell, well -- you man up. man up. >> you speak the facts. the title of the recent book, may require a different thing for people to do. i won't say the title of the book. i'll let you if you so choose. we have become a nation of what? >> wussies. >> there you go. thank you very much, and john anne michael. great pleasure volcano you on today. >>> the republicansdy policemen ma. john mccain and others praise senator chuck hagel years ago. we'll take a look at the republican problem there. democratic senator will join us to talk live about the latest on hagel and brennan. >>> protests outside the white house, over john brennan's nomination as cia director. why aren't people talking about the controversy surrounding him more? >> for the american people. >> thank you, america. >> helping people recover and rebuild, this's what we do. >> now, let's bring on tomorrow. >> the ad campaign is called thank you america. that's what ai
: and we continue our series of conversations with newly elected members of congress. tonight: texas republican senator ted cruz, a vocal opponent of the eleventh-hour fiscal cliff deal. >> i would have voted against it because i think it was a lousy deal. it wasn't a serious response to the grave fiscal and economic problems facing this country. >> major funding for the pbs newshour has been provided by: moving our economy for 160 years. bnsf, the engine that connects us. >> and by the alfred p. sloan foundation. supporting science, technology, and improved economic performance and financial literacy in the 2t century. >> and with the ongoing support of these institutions and foundations. and... >> this program was made possible by the corporation for public broadcasting. and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. >> woodruff: today's announcement at the white house sets up a pair of potential confirmation fights. president obama's choices to oversee t pentagon and the c.i.a. will now be called to answer questions about everything from israel to iran
are trying to unseat him. >> this is not an election year for the senate this is an election year for governor. >> people who love him and support him should stop loving and support you when you run for his seat. >> i have a deep respect and love for him. he has given a long degree of service. we should all respect that, and, look this is a loyon of our senate and i'll give him that space. this isn't an election year. fiscal cliff, the sandy aid, debt ceiling, a lot of issues we need him in the saddle, focused in the job, not focused as mayor of the city of newark. >> you always get these blowing, rave, wonderful articles. "the new york times," not nice at all, they say are you a better marketer than mayor. is it hurtful? >> probably one of the more frustrating articles of my career. they glossed over what we have done, since instituting court reform, prisoner entry reform, doubled the amount of affordable housing to dealing with veterans issues. a frustrating article. but as you said, sometimes you won't get flowing press. the press sometimes likes to build you up and take you do
is -- that -- the result is going to be these folks get defeated in an election. i think there's more chance of that than they change their positions or minds. >> jennifer: do you really hate to say it? >> well i would love to see it. but i would like to see a little reasonableness in this town to pass some of this stuff. >> jennifer: that's right. peter fenn thank you so much for coming inside "the war room." >> thanks. >> jennifer: you bet. and up next new state legislatures mean a wave of new state laws some are good and some are bad. we'll talk about that whwhwhwhwhwhwhwhwhwhwhwhwhwhwhwhwhwhwhwhwhwhwhwhwhwhwhwhwhwh >> i think it's brilliant. (vo) first, news and analysis with a washington perspective from an emmy winning insider. >> i know this stuff, and i love it. (vo) followed by humor and politics with a west coast edge. bill press and stephanie miller. >> what a way to start the day. [ ryon ] eating shrimp at red lobster is a fantastic experience. 30 shrimp for $11.99. i can't imagine anything better. you're getting a ton of shrimp and it tastes really good! [ male announce
in the election with up to 15% of the vote. let's move back down to the desk and continue our discussion. we saw the declining yields since berlusconi left. well over 8%, actually. and now we're just at over 4%. how much is the fact that we may get an undecided election, what will that do for sentiment around italy? >> i agree that the risks to the rally we've seen in italian income. i think the biggest risks in the short-term are political risks. in the end, i think the election situation in italy is staying pretty much as we expected. we expect any party would achieve an absolute majority in both houses and the italian parliament and be able to run as a coalition. i think the rule is that combination is one that is reasonably positive for the markets and reasonably positive in italian bond prices over the last year. >> is it your contention that actually they'll be the same relative degree of comfort in 2013? at the same time, we've had a big gain? >> well, i think how much value there still is in italian bonds, i think, you know, we have to be a little bit skeptical that there's a lot of valu
that conversation, and despite the election results, the position that has been taken on the part of some house republicans is that, no, we have to do it our way. if we do not, we simply will not pay america's bills. that cannot be a position that is sustainable over time. it is not one that is good for the economy now. even if it was on the other side. democrats do not like voting for the debt ceiling when a republican is president. but you never saw the situation in which democrats suggested somehow that we would go ahead and the fall if we did not get 100% of our way. that is just not how it is supposed to work. >> thank you, mr. president. on the issue of guns, given how difficult it would be to get any gun-control measure pass through this congress, what are you willing or able to do using the powers of your presidency to act without congress and i would also like to know, what do you make of these long lines we are seeing at gun shows all around the country? >> well, my understanding, as the vice president will provide a range of steps that we can take to reduce gun violence. some of them
in our conversations with newly elected members of the u.s. senate. texas republican ted cruz previously served as the state's solicitor general, and also worked in the george w. bush administration. the 42-year-old cruz defeated his democratic challenger by a wide margin in the november election, with strong support from the tea party. he took the seat of republican kay bailey hutchison, who retired. over the weekend, cruz said he would find it "very difficult" to support chuck hagel for defense secretary. cruz charged the former nebraska senator had "advocated weakness" in his foreign policy views. i spoke with him last friday from capitol hill. welcome, senator ted cruz. congratulations. let's start out talking about washington. most americans seem to think this city is dysfunctional. they have a very low opinion of the congress. what do you think the problem is is? what would you do about it? >> well, i think right now we've got a major problem that we're just going broke. we have spending money we don't have. there is a real lack of common sense in the capital. you have had career p
economy and put people back to work. despite the election results, the position that's been taken on the part of some house republicans is that, no, we got to do it our way. if we don't, we simply won't pay america's bills. well, that can't be a position that is sustainable over time. >> it's not one i want to establish not just for my presidency, but for future presidents. even if it was on the other side. democrats don't like voting for the debt ceiling when a republican is president, and, yet, you -- but you never saw a situation in which democrats suggested somehow that we would go ahead and default if we didn't get 100% of our way. that's not how it's supposed to work. john carl. >> thank you, mr. president. on the issue of guns, given how difficult it will be, some would say impossible, to get any gun control measure passed through this congress what are you willing to & able to do in the power of your presidency to act without congress, and i would also like to know, what do you make of these long lines we're seeing at gun shows and gun stores all around the country? i mean
that conversation and despite the election results, the position that's been taken on the part of some house republicans is that, no, we've got to do it our way. and if we don't, we simply won't pay america's bills. well, that can't be a position that is sustainable over time. it's not one that's good for the economy now. it's certainly not going to be the kind of precedent that i want to establish, not just for my presidency, but for future presidents. even if it was on the other side. democrats don't like voting for the debt ceiling when a republican's president. and yet, you, but you never saw a situation in which democrats suggested somehow that we would go ahead and default if we didn't get 100% of our way. that's just not how it's supposed to work. john carl? >> thank you, mr. president. on the issue of guns, given how difficult it will be, some would say, impossible, to get any gun control measure passed through this congress, what are you willing or able to do using the powers of your presidency to act without congress? and i'd also like to know, what do you make of these long lines
losing the election to president obama. conservative base of the republican party is not happy with this initial deal on the fiscal cliff. so they're looking for republicans to plant flags. now taxes and spending has nothing to do with chuck hagel except for gloria's point about a downsizing at the pentagon. chuck hagel has been on the record saying it's too bloated. while it's not connected to some of the other games of political chess in washington, in some ways everything is connected. >> the white house makes the calculation that if republicans are going to oppose chuck hagel because he ended up being opposed to the war in iraq, that's a fight the white house is happy to have. more than half of the public is opposed -- was opposed to the war in iraq, too, in the end. this is something that they feel they can do. they wouldn't have nominated him, wolf, if they didn't think he would get confirm but it's a political fight that they shouldn't shy away from. >> i'll bring jim acosta in this conversation in a moment. brianna keilar is standing over at the white house. john, despi
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